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    Who is Steven Greer?

    Right off the bat, I have to confess leaving the subject of ufology to those who have some idea of what they're talking about, those with direct experience or considerable investigation behind them.

    Well, that's wrong. The emergence of the human race into the Greater Community is every living person's problem. I've heard another student ask the question that I second, what the novice to ufology wants to know: who are these guys? who's wearing the white hats and black hats?

    So I'm starting a series of threads, a "just the facts, ma'am" set of descriptions of what is known about the voices in ufology, starting with Steven Greer.

    Steven Greer is founder and director of the Center for the Study of Extraterrestrial Intelligence (CSETI).

    Greer believes:
    • that there is no evidence that the visitors have any hostile intent, that if the obviously technologically superior ETs wanted to wipe us out, they could have done so long ago.
    • that abductions are a hoax.
    • that free energy is available to us through the beneficence of the Visitors.



    Greer is calling for us to:
    • de-weaponize space & cease all aggression towards ETs.
    • make Contact, accept the technological gifts offered, end all human woes to become worthy of membership in the Galactic Federation.
    • endorse the Disclosure Project, an to force the government to not only admit that extraterrestrials are visiting our planet, but also to release reverse-engineered ET technologies.


    Greer has a great deal of charisma and drive and through his efforts has accomplished a lot to get UFO/ET awareness raised.

    Do any of you have experience hearing or reading Steven Greer? What are your impressions? How do his assertions relate to the Allies of Humanity Briefings?
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    Years ago Greer seemed to me like one of the people that will make the difference in a positive way.
    The first thing that caught my attention was the definition he had given himself of a "Free Energy Activist". I thought "great", that's what we need.
    Only later I found out that he was actually working against humanity - a strong statement...I know, but it has sadly proven to be true.
    As far as the free energy is concerned, on the NM forum a member quoted a phrase (I believe it may have been from Webre but I will have to look for it later) that describes something that I would call the strategy of "sidelining". People like Greer stir up big interest in an activity like Free Energy in order to overshadow the scientists that are truly doing something (with hard work and no fanfares), so that they are sort of placed at the sidelines because something better is being done. Sadly though, nothing is really being done except for building hope and discrediting the institutions. Some time ago I posted some observations that can back up this claim here: http://alliesofhumanity.org/forum/sh...ull=1#post5762
    Then we have Greer's CE-5 initiative, discussed here:
    http://alliesofhumanity.org/forum/sh...rvention/page3
    He has been exposing people to contact in a way that is exactly what the Allies recommend to not do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raoul View Post
    Years ago Greer seemed to me like one of the people that will make the difference in a positive way.
    The first thing that caught my attention was the definition he had given himself of a "Free Energy Activist". I thought "great", that's what we need.
    Only later I found out that he was actually working against humanity - a strong statement...I know, but it has sadly proven to be true.
    As far as the free energy is concerned, on the NM forum a member quoted a phrase (I believe it may have been from Webre but I will have to look for it later) that describes something that I would call the strategy of "sidelining". People like Greer stir up big interest in an activity like Free Energy in order to overshadow the scientists that are truly doing something (with hard work and no fanfares), so that they are sort of placed at the sidelines because something better is being done. Sadly though, nothing is really being done except for building hope and discrediting the institutions. Some time ago I posted some observations that can back up this claim here: http://alliesofhumanity.org/forum/sh...ull=1#post5762
    Then we have Greer's CE-5 initiative, discussed here:
    http://alliesofhumanity.org/forum/sh...rvention/page3
    He has been exposing people to contact in a way that is exactly what the Allies recommend to not do.

    What's wrong with disclosure and contact? How is humanity learning about aliens a bad thing?
    And what's wrong with free energy? Or do you LIKE the idea of being dependent upon a mineral slime or something thing that makes a few elite people mega rich while the rest of us go hungry trying to keep warm?
    And since when are institutions, the ones who artificially maintain the status que and go out of their way to maintain the cover ups and kill and threaten to kill to keep the people with the knowledge quiet and keep man ignorant? Our institutions deserve to be DE-credited as much as possible.

    I mean so far, the "Allies'' seem to pretty much want us to be that hillbilly who sits on his porch and every time someone walks by, he reaches for his shotgun and go, "Git off m' property!" You know, live in fear of any outsiders


    Personally, I quite like Mr. Greer.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTAJpm91eII Greer says it so right....."They want us to exchange bigotry and homophobia for interplanetary racism."

    That is probably one of the best lines and reasons for the 'fear porn'. And that's what I feel those Allies and Unseen Ones are pretty much touting.....reject all alien contacts.


    No, just......no.

    I myself plan to learn what Greer says and learn the ways to achieve contact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Castellan View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTAJpm91eII Greer says it so right....."They want us to exchange bigotry and homophobia for interplanetary racism."

    That is probably one of the best lines and reasons for the 'fear porn'. And that's what I feel those Allies and Unseen Ones are pretty much touting.....reject all alien contacts.


    No, just......no.

    I myself plan to learn what Greer says and learn the ways to achieve contact.
    you just don't get it...do you

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    Quote Originally Posted by raoul View Post
    you just don't get it...do you
    ...err...sorry, that went off without the main msg.
    I was going to say...the whole thing about racism and homophobia etc. was a very poor attempt by Greer, supported by people like Wilcock, that was aimed at depicting the human race as cruel, basically unworthy, sort of a trigger-happy redneck.
    Around the time of Greer's unsuccessful movie 'Sirius', Wilcock claimed that a tiny spaceship containing tiny aliens was shot down by us earthlings, while they were just coming here to greet us...sort of the 'cherry on the scam-cake'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raoul View Post
    ...err...sorry, that went off without the main msg.
    I was going to say...the whole thing about racism and homophobia etc. was a very poor attempt by Greer, supported by people like Wilcock, that was aimed at depicting the human race as cruel, basically unworthy, sort of a trigger-happy redneck.
    Around the time of Greer's unsuccessful movie 'Sirius', Wilcock claimed that a tiny spaceship containing tiny aliens was shot down by us earthlings, while they were just coming here to greet us...sort of the 'cherry on the scam-cake'.
    That's because humans ARE trigger happy rednecks. I believe Greer when he says we got scalier weapons in orbit and that the Industrial Military Complex WANTS a war to happen and that while aliens are advanced tan us, they can still be shot down.....like if you went back in time to 1500 AD, with a cigarette lighter and a revolver....you'd be superior, but a local can still kill you by waffling you upside the head with a rock.

    And Greer, unlike the "Allies" and "Unseen ones" were able to show aliens making contact with the folks who initiate contact....the ships showing up or the aliens themselves appearing. And think about what Greer said, any civilization who mastered faster than light, interstellar travel would not need to come to a backwater planet like ours for gold, or coal or whatever.....to travel faster than light, you'd need enormous amounts of energy and when one has zero point energy at ones' use, hunting for resources becomes moot. The aliens achieved this, as well as being able to travel that fast without being turned into gooey salsa. And I can really believe that there are races out there who don't even have a word for 'war', and are not war like and see humanity like how we see the Terran Empire in that classic Star Trek episode, "Mirror Mirror", where humanity is a militant, brutal empire, enslaving or destroying anything non human. Just because WE have the 'monkey mind' (monkeys are one of the few creatures on Earth that will turn on and kill each other for property or territory. Other animals will fight each other, but won't kill...and we make the monkeys look like saints in comparison) does not mean everyone else out there does as well. There are most likely alien races that are far, far more humane than any human could dream of being.

    Think about that one for a bit, and feel free to read my viewpoints in this same forum section.

    And considering how that one military guy who wanted to help Greer out with a free energy device ( we got them already, but the institutions you guys seem to think are not all that bad, won't let us normal peons have them), and is later found floating in the Potomac river....it doubles the trigger happy redneck comparison.

    And those aliens Greer contacted have shown themselves......the so-called "Allies of Humanity" or their "Unseen Ones" have done nothing...absolutely NOTHING to prove themselves of who they are and their intent. I'm more open to listen to someone that shows themselves rather than someone who will not and goes, "just believe in us! (despite they won't show themselves)." Just as LAUGHABLE as the Galactic Federation of Light.....but at least that group of middle aged hippies are not spreading fear porn.

    So, call me a heretic, but disclosure and contact with aliens is a good thing, necessary and far better than just being on our own, like, as I said, the redneck who sits on his porch, reaching for his double barrel every time someone walks by and shouts to them, "GIT OV'MUH PRO-POR-TEY!"

    And until your "Allies" and "Unseen Ones" give any shred of proof, I say THEY are the TRUE Svengali.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Castellan View Post
    That's because humans ARE trigger happy rednecks. I believe Greer when he says we got scalier weapons in orbit and that the Industrial Military Complex WANTS a war to happen and that while aliens are advanced tan us, they can still be shot down.....like if you went back in time to 1500 AD, with a cigarette lighter and a revolver....you'd be superior, but a local can still kill you by waffling you upside the head with a rock.

    And Greer, unlike the "Allies" and "Unseen ones" were able to show aliens making contact with the folks who initiate contact....the ships showing up or the aliens themselves appearing. And think about what Greer said, any civilization who mastered faster than light, interstellar travel would not need to come to a backwater planet like ours for gold, or coal or whatever.....to travel faster than light, you'd need enormous amounts of energy and when one has zero point energy at ones' use, hunting for resources becomes moot. The aliens achieved this, as well as being able to travel that fast without being turned into gooey salsa. And I can really believe that there are races out there who don't even have a word for 'war', and are not war like and see humanity like how we see the Terran Empire in that classic Star Trek episode, "Mirror Mirror", where humanity is a militant, brutal empire, enslaving or destroying anything non human. Just because WE have the 'monkey mind' (monkeys are one of the few creatures on Earth that will turn on and kill each other for property or territory. Other animals will fight each other, but won't kill...and we make the monkeys look like saints in comparison) does not mean everyone else out there does as well. There are most likely alien races that are far, far more humane than any human could dream of being.

    Think about that one for a bit, and feel free to read my viewpoints in this same forum section.

    And considering how that one military guy who wanted to help Greer out with a free energy device ( we got them already, but the institutions you guys seem to think are not all that bad, won't let us normal peons have them), and is later found floating in the Potomac river....it doubles the trigger happy redneck comparison.

    And those aliens Greer contacted have shown themselves......the so-called "Allies of Humanity" or their "Unseen Ones" have done nothing...absolutely NOTHING to prove themselves of who they are and their intent. I'm more open to listen to someone that shows themselves rather than someone who will not and goes, "just believe in us! (despite they won't show themselves)." Just as LAUGHABLE as the Galactic Federation of Light.....but at least that group of middle aged hippies are not spreading fear porn.

    So, call me a heretic, but disclosure and contact with aliens is a good thing, necessary and far better than just being on our own, like, as I said, the redneck who sits on his porch, reaching for his double barrel every time someone walks by and shouts to them, "GIT OV'MUH PRO-POR-TEY!"

    And until your "Allies" and "Unseen Ones" give any shred of proof, I say THEY are the TRUE Svengali.
    So...your proof is Greer's photo of some strange light effect that looks like a fairy; if that's Greer's proof, it's a good indication of how is ET friends consider him.

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    If you do follow the Allies and the Unseen Ones, there are easy-to-spot themes that belie the Influence of a Force of Dissonance. The Allies speak with authority and advise us to be very skeptical about free energy sources.

    Here is a blog post on the topic.

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    I too have a few problems with Greer. First red flag for me was his World Puja religion, the second was that he is funded by the Rockefellers and Rothschild's. Third is that after this much time there is not a damned thing to show for all his talk. I think he was put out there to sniff out those who were working on these projects so that they could be either bought out or destroyed, jmho. If he is for humanity then he had better start taking like it. Giving up your power, authority or accountability to a religious hierarchy or to anything else is anti-human, your going to hear me say this a lot. This movement or awakening is about humanity coming unto its own and not giving up its authority to invisible and for that matter non-existent gods no matter how wise or benevolent. Through all of human existence (at least the recorded existence) human beings have given up their authority to "higher powers" without fail these higher powers have treated humanity with disdain and miss-ruled them. We MUST claim our authority as supreme and take responsibility for our lives, actions and this earth and stop believing that fairy-tale "higher powers" have more authority than we do. I say this because we live in a world where there is NO accountability for people. In Canada all power and authority comes form the queen and therefore it has negated our authority with a trump card from "God". All civil servants, all politicians and police swear their oaths of allegiance to the queen thereby undoing any obligation that they had to us. Democracy is a farce, while the ideal of it is right it is not something that we have in this country nor anywhere in the commonwealth. Once a politician, who is ostensibly authorized by our x on a piece of paper, they show up for work and are systematically "sworn in" . This very swearing in process is an act of treason by the politician which has removed any accountability to the people and placed it with the Crown. Alas I digress... I will have to digress a little more to complete the picture here but you get the point, unseen hands have no business with our authority. We are at the top of the authority chain unless we are subjugated by a superior belligerent force. This is why the religious trump card is so damned important to all modern nation states.

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