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    btw: I do think it's a bit strange how Edward Snowden more or less got away with it - there may be more to that story.

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    Give me a good REASON to trust our government and institutions.....the same government and institutions that have artificially maintained status ques for so many decades.

    The same ones who keep us using oil, coal and nuclear.
    The same ones who hide the truth of what's out there...aka "Brookings" of NASA and denying any and all truth regarding alien life. And the same ones who have THREATENED bodily harm, and even death to witness of alien encounter...or threaten their children to keep quiet.
    The same ones who create illegal and immoral wars for power and profit.
    The same ones who withhold technology, science and medical knowledge from the public for power and profit.
    The same ones who cause economic and social misery amongst the masses.
    The same ones who caused wars over distribution of resources and arguments over tribal god images.

    You better give me some DAMNED GOOD reasons why we should have a SHRED of faith in any and all institutions. Me, I say let the institutions shrivel up and die. And given how government approval is getting lower and lower each and every year.....I say your "Allies of Humanity" and their "Unseen Ones" are more likely some folks within the industrial military complex using more creative means to maintain control over the world.

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    I ask again since I have not gotten any answers. And yes, I have read all you suggested....and it looks to me more like a clever propaganda campaign by the power mongers, the Industrial Military Complex. And when someone says, "Believe in us, though we will NOT show ourselves to you!" already triggers a red light in my mind. This is borderline religion at its best...or worst, I should say.

    And let's see just how GREAT institutions, yet again.

    My god is greater than yours...therefore you SUCK and you must die!

    Two heterosexual people hate each other have far more rights than two homosexual people who love each other.

    Nikola Tesla DESTROYED by JP Morgan and Edison, to keep energy from being free.

    Witnesses to aliens threatened to keep quiet, sometimes getting a good rifle butt to the head from a military knuckle dragger.

    Oh, and with the 2001 disclosure (oh, that D word you folks all seem to detest) conference....amazing how the were doing so well, getting big time witnesses and people from the military and industry who have the balls to come forward and begin talking...and real progress was being made, and suddenly 9-11 happens about the same time...and Dr. Greer even mentioned how various video tapes of the conference disappeared before they were able to go public.....so instead of learning about aliens....we're bailing out banks, killing Muslims and doing hardcore Orwellian policy in the so-called name of protection and 'national security'. Plus according to Greer, a high ranking military officer was going to help the disclosure project by providing them with both a free energy device and various documents regarding aliens....and that military guy was found floating face down in the Potomac river. Plus Greer wanted to make a film about aliens that do not depict them as nasty evil monsters...like mainstream media has done, but the producer of the film who wanted to do it was threatened by several men in suits NOT to make the film....and this was a big name producer from what I heard (name no said for safety reasons....but I got a good idea as to whom it might have been). Not to mention various presidents like Carter and Clinton, who wanted to get the truth about aliens, threatened to keep quiet. And look at Kennedy....him and Khrushchev both had secret talks, with help of the Pope at that time, and agreed to a JOINT US/USSR moon mission as allies, not rivals, and share whatever they'd find on the moon, as well as pretty much ending the cold war before the 60's would be done....and then, just 10 days later, Kennedy was murdered, and Khrushchev was kicked out of office and under house arrest for life. Khrushchev's son is/have made a book about all this and plans to release it.



    Those are your GLORIOUS institutions at work, folks.








    Praise the lord, pass the ammunition. :P





    Oh, and try to digest this:


    If an alien race had mastered faster than light travel, they'd have to have sources of incredible energy in order to do so, and that same energy would be utilized in so many things...that stuff like coal, oil, uranium, platinum, and even gold would be moot to them. They don't need to come and plunder and pillage a backwater planet like ours. Also, regarding abductions and dong horrible things to us for our DNA......let me tell you something.....they would not need our sperm and eggs.....don't flatter yourselves, ladies and gents, your sperm and eggs are not THAT great. ;) If they needed our genetic material for some reason, all they would need is a few flakes of skin, a hair follicle or whatever. And according to my own research into aliens and Ufology, most, if not ALL the encounters humans had with aliens....from the distant past to 1960....were peaceful and benefiting. Plus I heard that the sinister greys and reptiles are in fact constructs of our own science, along with technology we got (denied to the public, of course :P), can easily be done for a FAKE alien invasion....think 9-11 on a greater scale once the "Muslim scare" no longer works. And we've had such technology since at least the 1970's. Project Blue Beam can happen.


    It's not aliens who are the bad guys, folks, it's the human institutions that are.....you REALLY think they are all that good and beneficial to us? If you think yes, all I can say is that you are way TOO PURE and TOO NOBEL. Let me tell you something.....when men have great amounts of power over millions....you really think they are looking out for us? No, they are out for themselves, and can not resist the chance to play GOD with us. The Military Industrial Complex has taken away power from our government, even the president.....and can do and get away with whatever they want and do. Eisenhower warned us about it, hell, he helped START the whole thing, but the Military Industrial Complex stabbed him in the back in the end. They don't even respect each other, it seems.


    Call me a heretic, but I don't see anything an alien would want with Earth or us. We're not the only planet out there with resources and so on.....as I said, once you master faster than light travel, and have free energy....you don't NEED to plunder worlds for resources. It's the ultimate irony/catch 22. If I could travel faster than light, my ship would NOT need an overrated mineral slime to power it. Plus I feel we need our future to be like Star Trek.....as in a big Federation/Alliance of worlds from all over the Galaxy, and humans and aliens living together, working together, helping each other, loving each other, sharing with each other, sharing each others' cultures and science to make the cosmos a better place. And NOT like like in "Star Wars" where we're (humans) a militaristic empire fueled by fear, interstellar bigotry, and greed for power over others.

    And I have had encounters with alien sightings, and have recently began experimenting with astral projection, and I have asked, while in that outside state, to heal various pains I was experiencing......and guess what, many of my pains are gone ~snaps fingers~ like that. And I have also tried something Greer mentioned, as in introducing myself to anyone who can pick up a mental signal (aliens with millions, if not billions of years ahead of us in technology would probably have a technology that can work based upon thought and consciousness, and I figured, why not try it?) to make contact with me in person, and to make a design for a crop circle to make. And if I see that design, it will tell me I am on to something. And trust me, if I can get a chance to leave the Earth with some friendly, benevolent aliens (yea, yea, I know....you folks can't even fathom such a.........concept), I shall. Earth never felt like home to me, for years, I'd look up at the night sky and, might sound strange to some of you, 'return home'. So, when I can get a chance, I'm going to take it. Hell, from my own research, many of these alien races don't even have a word for 'war'. Some of you probably will have had hissy fits by such an idea like that, I bet.


    Also, as I said before......aliens have shown themselves in the skies already.....some UFO's are ours, yes....and I say how DARE our military does that....horde technology for themselves and deny it to us......if the military flunkies have vehicles that can make right angles at high speeds and all that other stuff....it's running on a superior energy source and that count benefit all of humanity. But quite a few of the UFO's are ET in origin and the military has no god damned right to keep the truth from us, and the ET's have shown themselves.....the 'Allies of Humanity' have not, nor has the 'Unseen Ones'. And putting out messages through a few human receivers will NOT get you any significant progress, since that can easily be dismissed as merely someone in hi basement, in front of a computer, with an active imagination. You're not gonna win the masses over with more proverbial Kool-Aid, folks. I myself am calling out your "Allies", I don't trust anyone out of them bloom. I trust the aliens more, because:

    1: They are showing themselves more and more.
    2: An advanced race, millions of years ahead of us don't need to plunder and pillage like locusts.
    3: There are many resources in the galaxy if one is to pillage....safer, easier and less messy, such as asteroids, lifeless moons and so on.
    4: Our institutions have done horrible, horrible things to avoid change, progress and advancement of humanity as a whole, just to keep their power......and even if they have good intentions, which I, and so many others, judging from all the low approvals of the public here in America, and the riot and revolts going on all over the world, doubt....the cause does not justify the means. If threats, bribery, harming people, killing people, maintaining status ques that are strangulating and stagnating us, and denying us from a better life is what's needed for humanity to survive, then humanity does not deserve to survive.


    So, call me crazy if I am more willing to listen to an ET life form, with millions of years of advancement (to get that advanced, they'd have to have either cleaned up their act or never have any mess to clean up to begin with) beyond us than some high brass military knuckle dragger in uniform and chevrons or some secret government black ops officer, who probably has innocent blood stained upon his or her hands in order for us to keep on being fearful, paranoid, ignorant and downright stupid for some half baked story they give. Same goes with these so-called "Allies of Humanity". It's all the same Herman Goering philosophy they live and preach by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainmaker View Post
    "With Knowledge, you can face any kind of changing circumstances without despair, without condemnation, without falling apart within yourself, without breaking down and without losing heart.
    That is why Knowledge is the most important thing in life."





    The New Message from God

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    Tell that to the American people, who's approval ratings for government is at an all time LOW. Also, look back at post world war 2 America.....where people still had faith in government and respected government and listened to government.

    The "Red Scare" that era of American history I like to call "Duck and Cover!" where if any one was so much as accused of being a Communist, let alone be one, their lives were ruined.....losing their jobs, their reputations, sometimes even their freedoms (in the 20's, there was a policy akin to Obama's NDAA where you, if thought of as a Communist, could be snatched off the street, detained indefinitely without being charged and no due process). People were actually spying on their neighbors, thinking that they might be Communists. Hell, they even looked in their closets and under their beds, for fear of finding a Communist waiting to get them in their sleep. We had so many illegal wars, using that as an excuse......Korea, Vietnam (Gulf of Tonkin was nothing but a LIE....50,000 men and boys DIED for a lie). And as I mentioned, JFK and Khrushchev both tried to stop this madness that going on and end the stupid and pointless cold war, but were murdered or arrest for it.

    It's the same now today, with Terrorists. It's just a different 'ism' And all based on lies and fear porn.


    And look at all the revolting happening in places like Egypt, Syria and so on......yea.....faith in government and the institutions are REALLY going to solve everything, right? Or who can remember 1989 China, when those protestors were being run over by all those tanks? It's having faith in these institutions that caused them messes we are in in the first place.

    That is why Knowledge is the most important thing in life
    No, knowledge is nothing without wisdom, Sparky.

    We went from cupboard wagons and rifles to putting men on the moon and thermonuclear weapons in less than 100 years......and now each major super power are one shiny, red button press away from nuclear warfare, and all you need is just one power hungry lunatic to press one of them. I feel the aliens are afraid of us and afraid for us. We have the potential to be that evil, interstellar empire seen in Star Wars or the Trek episode "Mirror Mirror", and those aliens out there, many of which do not have a word for 'war' are worried either we'd either become a empire of 'Space Napoleons' or blow ourselves to kingdom come when we could be far, far greater.

    Stop and think about that for a minute.



    We have to put government back in its place, as our 'bitches', so to speak.
    We have let the institutions shrivel up and die, otherwise we, regular people, are not going to advance and that those in power will keep running our lives, deciding how we all will live and die.
    We must eliminate our paranoia, fear, homophobia, and other short comings....but NOT to exchange them for interstellar bigotry. It's like how I see black people talking about the gay and transgendered community in EXACTLY the same way the raciest white folks were talking about THEM as recently as 50 years ago. We can not simply shoot and ask questions later. We must eliminate the dislike for the unlike, not just in ourselves, but regarding those out there as well. Saying every alien race out there is sinister and hostile is like saying all Germans are insane, raciest, power mad krauts because a lunatic from Austria got a small group together who shared his view points.



    You see where I am getting at, or have I just wasted an hour typing, here? :P

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    Enough of Nasi quoting, do some actual dialogue, please. Enough 'messages from god' and just talk.


    Religion's causing enough problems with the world without needing to quote them.

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    Here's your institutions at work: http://www.educatinghumanity.com/201...s-on-Moon.html


    I've seen that speech Armstrong made 20 years ago, the man was in TEARS talking to those visiting. And the same institutions threatening to KILL not only him, but his WIFE and CHILDREN! You folks really think that these institutions are THAT good and necessary? You mean to tell me you SUPPORT not only a bunch of lunatics who keep the truth from us, but also treat national heroes like Aldren and Armstrong like vermin and threaten their friends and family, who have nothing to do with any of it.....just to keep the status que? And Armstrong practically was a basket case and a hermit in the decades since the moon landing.

    Personally, I say screw the institutions and human leadership with a phillips and let them die off so we can actually get some REAL progress going on.

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    ... Nasi Novare Coram ....



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